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Major Airline Pay scale questions

I apoligize, the copy and pasting did not go as smoothly as I hoped, but it shouldn’t matter too much for my question.

This is United Airlines pay scale and i’m wondering if for example you get hired, get assigned to the A320 and fly on it as an FO for 3 years, then successfully bid on for example the 787 because it pays a little better. Does the pilot’s pay drop back down to year one’s 85 an hour or does seniority help him/her keep their pay on an incline regardless of changing aircraft in the fleet?

FIRST OFFICER PAY SCALE (Hourly)

Year 777 747-4 767-4 787 757-3 767-2 767-3 757 A320
12 224 224 224 224 187 187 187 181 181 181 181 181 173 173 173
11 222 222 222 222 185 185 185 179 179 179 179 179 172 172 172
10 220 220 220 220 183 183 183 177 177 177 177 177 170 170 170
9 217 217 217 217 180 180 180 175 175 175 175 175 168 168 168
8 215 215 215 215 178 178 178 173 173 173 173 173 166 166 166
7 210 210 210 210 174 174 174 169 169 169 169 169 162 162 162
6 205 205 205 205 169 169 169 165 165 165 165 165 158 158 158
5 200 200 200 200 165 165 165 161 161 161 161 161 154 154 154
4 195 195 195 195 161 161 161 157 157 157 157 157 150 150 150
3 190 190 190 190 157 157 157 153 153 153 153 153 147 147 147
2 163 163 163 163 134 134 134 131 131 131 131 131 125 125 125
1 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85

WOW THIS IS MESSED UP :disappointed:

Thomas,

No, your pay does not drop back down to first year when you change airplanes or upgrade to Captain. For example, I am on 11th year pay at United and am on the 737. If I were to change to the 787 I would be at 11th year 787 pay. If I were to upgrade to Captain I would be at 11th year Captain pay. The years of pay is directly linked to your years of service at the airline, not the equipment type.

Chris

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At this point in your career, if you wanted to change metal, do you know which ones your seniority could currently hold if you made a bid to switch?

Yes, that is very easy to tell in our computer system. I can currently hold any airplane United has as a First Officer.

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That is pretty awesome! I’m still jealous about you getting to fly the 757. Always has been and always will be my favorite. The closest I’ve ever got was staying in the jumpseat through engine start one time. Ever since I have been in love with them. It’s nice to have a picture of how long it takes to have enough seniority for certain things. For how long have you had the ability to hold any aircraft as a first officer?

Chris,

Slightly off topic, but which aircraft would you like to bid on next? Any preference for a specific aircraft?

Yuran

Thomas,

What we’re talking about here is called “longevity” and that refers to how LONG you’ve been at the company. I’m currently in my 5th year at Hawaiian. That means that whatever “seniority” of aircraft I can hold, may pay will be at the 5th year rate. I’m currently an A330 FO receiving 5th year A330 FO pay. I was just awarded B717 CA (woohoo!) That means I will receive 5th year B717 CA pay even thought it’s my first year as CA. Make sense?

Adam

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Congrats on the upgrade man! That’s awesome for 5 years in!!!

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Thank you Kamrin!

Actually it’s 4yrs 2mos but who’s counting :slight_smile:

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Thomas,

You got it, that is exactly how it works.

Chris

Yuran,

For right now I am pretty happy on the 737. I suppose that my next stop would be the 757/767 again.

Chris

For several years now, although I would be very junior on the big planes like the 747 and 787.

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Chris,

I see I see. I thought maybe you’d go to the 747 or 787, but each their own. I have heard nothing, but good things about the 757. Very pilot friendly and very fun to fly from what I’ve been told.

Yuran

Adam,

Congrats on the upgrade! I’m sure you’re happy about that especially since you’re not counting or anything! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Yuran,

At the point I am at in my career I am more interested in having a good schedule, with the days off that I want, than chasing bigger airplanes. Right now I get exactly what I want scheduling wise, so it makes there be very little incentive to go to a bigger airplane. Also, I flew the world on the 767, for right now I am happy primarily staying in the US.

The 757 is a great airplane, it sits up high, has plenty of power, and holds a lot of fuel. I did enjoy flying it.

Chris

Hey guys,

So If I understand correctly, will this work as well on the regionals?
More specific, If I go to work as FO on Regional XYZ …
FO pay
first year pay = $1
Second year pay = $2
third year pay = $3
and then I get upgraded to CA, pay let’s say is:
First year pay = $3
second year pay = $4
Third year pay = $5
So if my upgrade to CA is at my FO year 2, I would move up in pay from $2 to $4?
Being that my FO second year pay $2 = second year pay as CA $4. Or in this case, you go back to CA year 1 pay?
does it make any sense? And is this also independent of what equipment you are flying? Is that how seniority works?

Thanks!

Enrico

Thanks Thomas!
Yeah I kind of figured it out but I thought it was linked to the equipment you are assigned and only on the majors.

thanks for the reassurance though!

enrico

You guys are making this WAYYYYY too complicated. Regional or Major, you take the NUMBER of YEARS you’ve been at the company (LONGEVITY) and that’s the pay level you’ll be at for the aircraft AND seat (CA or FO) your flying.

Adam

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Thanks Adam for putting it in begginers terms!

Enrico

Adam, does it get more complicated when your company signs a new contract and retro pays you back 18 months? You getting a new boat?