Nope, I must not have flown with him.
Probably not. Based out of IAH for the back half of his career when you could’ve flown with him.
Chris, do you fly for United? Did you ever fly with Steve Hogan, was a senior Captain, now retired, also a B787 Capt. Anton Salameh, both friends of my dad. Actually Captain Hogan was my dad’s flight instructor in Meacham Airport in Fort Worth TX many years ago.
Julia,
I do fly for United, but I am not familiar with either of those names.
Chris
Chris,
Doesn’t United have something like 12,000 pilots?
Adam
Thanks Chris, I know there are too many United pilots, the reason I asked is Capt. Anton Salameh came from Continental just like you.
Yes, Continental was much smaller. We tended not too mix too much with the Houston and Cleveland people though, most of the people I know were EWR based.
A story to show you how small the industry is; I actually flew with a guy who’s father had flown with my grandfather on his retirement flight from TWA. Small world.
Chris
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How do you fly for an American Airlines that flies overseas.
William,
A lot has to happen first before you get to that level. I would start reading everything in the FAQ section of this forum. That should give you a general idea of what steps you would have to take.
Tory
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Thanks
I really can’t say this guy is a loser, as someone who has been flying since the early 80s, Fly8ma, whom you are referring does a great service to anyone willing to listen rather than buy into the assumption that flying for an airline is the be all and end all to a flying career. Hint, I mean listen to his video and see where he went and why. I am glad that there’s so many willing to pay the price to become an airline pilot, but from my experience in the airline industry and most of my flying out of it, there are many ways to have a great aviation career without ever having to program an FMS.
Personally, I respect his opinion and kudos to him for realizing that the airlines are not for him. I actually used Fly8MA and their PPL ground school for my PPL, and found it way easier to learn from and study than the King’s school.
But, as with most things in life, YMMV.
He openly admitted to delaying a flight so he could get food… correct me if I’m wrong but delayed flights cost money and if you cost an airline money and brag about it’s safe to assume no one is going to hire you back…
Shawn,
Fortunately or unfortunately there’s a pilot shortage right now so I’m thinking if he wanted to return he most likely could. Unless of course I was on his panel… 
Adam
So in other words, the shortage is allowing sub par pilots (both by skill and professionalism) to join the ranks… that reassuring
Skill is questionable as they still have to get through training but professionalism wise? Absolutely.
Adam
Agreed with Adam, the regs and training requirements have not changed. But I am a little tired of seeing sunglasses on the head, backpacks, AirPods in the terminal, etc.
Chris
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I think the overall aging out of baby boomers is affecting many industries. Entrants see the bonuses and smell the desperation of the organizations trying to attract qualified employees (not even good or dedicated ones). They get very comfortable testing the limits of the rules early on because they know that, once they are in the door and the company has invested money in them - they are not likely to be fired unless they REALLY screw up. I spend an inordinate amount of time calibrating the attitudes of new 19 to 22 year old arrivals with inflated opinions of their worth to the organization.
There have always been people who were not raised to understand that skill, competence, and the respect of your bosses and peers only come from lifelong humility, learning from mistakes, and admitting you are not indispensable. Added to that, the pool of people who are willing to take up challenging jobs (long hours, mentally/physically taxing work) has shrunk. To keep the ranks filled, organizations are keeping more jerks and whiners - the people who 10 years ago would have been escorted to the nearest exit to become someone else’s disruptive pain in the backside.
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Could anyone offer a general idea or timeline for me. I know the early part of an airline pilot’s career isn’t exactly glamorous and many refer to this as paying “dues”.
But, how long is the path traveled from first officer to Captain? Or in other words, how long must a pilot pays his or her dues until it begins to pay off financially?
KJ,
Please visit our FAQ section as we answer this and many common questions.
Adam