Real Answers from Real Pilots

FAA approves Southwest

(Arthun) #1

Nothing better than a little more competition.

#2

Depends who you’re talking to.

Adam

#3

I can’t wait to hear them on an oceanic radio frequency. They better offer some lessons in proper radio phraseology.

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(Jordan Lascomb) #4

Our ETOPS training program is being developed entirely (from what I have seen) by current pilots who have prior ETOPS experience. But of course there is a learning curve for any airline deciding to add ocean-crossing to it’s route (same as United or Delta or any major would’ve experienced when it first began those routes).

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#5

Jordan,

You guys will be fine ETOPS wise, really no biggy, but we do have bets how long it’ll take before you land “LONG” in LIH :wink:

Adam

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#6

Nah, they have SNA down pat, short runways shouldn’t be a problem.

Jordan, what I meant was that pilots who have only flown domestic generally have very poor radio communication skills. There are a lot of phraseology shortcuts that FAA controllers tolerate that oceanic radio operators will not. This is a learning curve for all of us when we begin flying oceanic.

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#7

And that’s why there’s CPDLC!

Adam

(Jordan Lascomb) #8

That’s exactly what I was saying. I’d imagine there will be a part of training focused on phraseology but of course there will be a learning curve.

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(Jordan Lascomb) #9

Well we HAVE seen much shorter than that. My first day of IOE was the same day as the somewhat recent BUR incident. Needless to say I received many worried texts hahah

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#10

C P D L C!!!

Adam

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#11

My advice on that is to listen to the radio operators and speak the same way they do. They rarely cut corners, although San Francisco Radio is a little more laid back than our friends that control the Atlantic.

(Jordan Lascomb) #12

Good thing I don’t plan to do ETOPS - I grew up in ORD where a call sign was all you needed. I’m with Adam - CPDLC!

#13

Do you know if Southwest is going to have CPDLC?

(Jordan Lascomb) #14

We’ve had CPDLC for quite a while now.

#15

I always forget about domestic CPDLC, the Airbus fleet at UAL is still stuck in the nineties.

(Jordan Lascomb) #16

Ha well our experience is still mostly limited to departure clearances. Very few sectors domestically are active enroute, but we’ve gotten to experience it a bit. I’m sure oceanic will be entirely new. We did a day of ETOPS in initial and got a taste of it but we will have dedicated crews and I’m sure the training will be much more intensive.

#17

Seriously transpac CPDLC is the bomb! You log and no need to speak to a soul till HCF center 5hrs later. Only downside is when it’s out it’s practically an emergency :wink:

Adam

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